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Postby froombosch » Tue Oct 12, 2004 9:17 am

What should the harware/software makers build? What are the tools you are waiting for?
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Postby staticinsect » Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:06 pm

even though I don't see it happening anytime soon, something I would like to see is more DSP-based FX processing brought to the analog modular format. it would be nice if I could get a Modcan-style module that would run various FX off of DSP, perhaps saving programs to a smart-media card, while offering knob control of say 4 parameters, A/D-D/A conversion of two (stereo) audio signals as well as, if possible, A/D conversion of a couple of control voltage signals so that other CV control sources in the system could control the FX. the module could have a DSP of some sort for the processing and some RAM for delay/time-based FX and/or loading samples to use with convolution-based FX... it would be nice too to see some FIR-based spectral FX, such as phase-vocoders, formant filtering and the like incorporated into such a module... it would make a nice compliment to any modular system, IMO!

a couple of the companies have gone a little bit down this road in offering sampling/digital delay modules, but I'd like to see it go one step further in presenting a number of spectral FX and using the sampling in conjunction with other technology such as convolution reverbs...

but that is most likely a specialist wishlist item that only I would desire and probably likely to never actually be created :?
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Postby froombosch » Wed Oct 13, 2004 11:44 am

Whats so special about convolution reverbs? I have listen to some, but they do not convince me....
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Postby staticinsect » Wed Oct 13, 2004 3:37 pm

I don't necessarily think there's anything special about them from what I've heard... it's just another tool to add to the arsenal... unfortunately, the only cheap way to get into them right now is through software as the hardware units are still pretty expensive... mind you, that difference in price on the hardware makes me wonder if it has something the software I've heard so far is lacking?
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Postby froombosch » Wed Oct 13, 2004 4:14 pm

I do not have a lot of experience on convolution software, but I guess that the reverb files are not of great quality. On some forums I saw comments mainly about the bad quality of those.

When you build a good working piece of software and some of them must be reasonable, then it would be a nice tool. But when i tried some of them, i almost wanted to cry and it made me run for my 8000/eclipse and 91.

Maybe the hardware solutions sound better. When going to another AES show or the Frankfurther Messe I'll listen to the these machines....
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Postby staticinsect » Wed Oct 13, 2004 7:43 pm

as you mention, I'm sure the quality of the impulse samples has the biggest impact on how these reverbs sound, whether hardware or software. a poorly executed recording of the impulse with probably lead to a not-so-stellar sounding final result...

another factor to consider is that the impulses taken for convolution reverbs are typically of real rooms and spaces. it's possible too that one's ears have gotten so used to the sound of our digital, algorithm-based reverbs that when we hear such a "real-world" reverb sound from these convolution verbs it throws us off, specifically because we are so used to the "artficial" sound of the reverbs we've grown used to!

I'm not saying that this is specifically the case for you, but certainly something to consider...
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Postby froombosch » Fri Oct 15, 2004 8:35 pm

Quality of the impulses is very important. Not only when recording the real spaces but also when copying the reverb character of a hardware unit. When sampling a 8000/960/91/6000 reverb you can not tweak them as you can on those machines.

When it comes too reverb, sometimes we want real spaces, but sometimes we just don't. Lately I was in a real large hall wit really long pre-delays and large reverb time and it sounded excellent. I could not wait to record a drumkit there, but when working on percussion or with vocals I 'd rather have something else.

I know how the better rooms sound, I have been in some ;-)
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Postby aeon » Mon Mar 21, 2005 6:02 am

I would like to see a hardware effects platform that would combine the modular-style architecture and sound quality of an Eventide, the ease-of-use, intuitive editor design, and user community of the Clavia Nord Modular series, the end-user/customer support of the Access Virus series, the synthesis potential of Reaktor, and the algorithmic MIDI generation of Numerology/Kyma. :D

Hmm, that kinda already exists in the Symbolic Sound Capybara and Kyma, but that was not really what I was getting at, heh.


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Postby froombosch » Mon Mar 21, 2005 6:36 pm

Hello Aeon,

Welcome here! Some manufactors will find this place and will see what we would like. Never know what they will do with it, but we will see what will pop up.

Great edit-facilities are great but the quality of the sound is most important to me.....
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